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Young people's notes from Health workshop - day 1

Where are we falling short for children and young people?:

GP. Housing etc: Need to phone in the morning to get an appointment. No flexibility – not able to get an appointment for the following day.
Tricky to access GP without parent/guardian being there

What needs to be changed or put in place?:

Better communication between all young people
Healthy food shop for young people (affordable)
Too many off-licenses in poor neighborhoods
Creating health services for young people locally.

Key messages for tomorrow
We need better communication – media etc.
More control commercially – food shops etc.
Flexibility of GP services
Creating health services for young people locally

Average: 4 (2 votes)
Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 22:39

Notes from day 1 workshops: Health

Why are we falling short?:

Not having everybody on board
Regional variations make it hard to work together
Funding, failure to be able to really have long term plans is down to funding and government policy – short term project funding money is always a stumbling block.
Demonisation of young people by society

Funding
Integrated effort
Engagement with young people and listening and following through

Long term plan, short term funding
Shifting agenda, teenage pregnancy, drugs etc.
Precious about ring fenced or individual budgets hinders joint working
Local communities: lack of support for young people
Support of key stakeholders
Regional variations

Funding sustainability
Lack of investment in youth agenda
Constant change of direction

Lack of funding continuity
Lack of evidence re youth issues
Other priorities take precedence
Changing directions

Failure to invest in longer term
Too many shifts and changed in policy that inhibit services from focusing on young peoples needs

Voluntary, non-stigmatized, trust, integrity, person centered, community based, long term funding.

Services are NOT rooted in young peoples own communities or peer groups, are not often based on a voluntary and more equal relationship – and often get stigmatized

Adults perceptions of young people
Lack of funding for personalized services

Lack of resources
Youth working training not as good
Sustainability

What needs to be changed or put in place?:

Need to break down professional barriers
Better communication – need better guidance across statutory and non statutory
Access to other peoples outcome
Working together
Government reducing the burdens and the need to write reports

Better communications
Guidance over statutory and non statutory
Less separate plans / reports required

Guidance for best practice that includes statutory and non-statutory agencies. I.e. CF, NOF, Comic Relief
Government reduce the burden of separate reporting
Children and young people’s plan is central
Constant involvement of young people in development and planning

Leaving services along to do it
Sustainable funding

Clarity of funding
Leave programmes to run for some time – 10 yrs
Greater local direction – not necessarily a national agenda

A commitment to securing ECM / Youth Matters policy / objectives for a minimum of 10 years – (a cross party agreement)

Long term funding
Responsible media
Recognition of value of youth work as a delivery agency (community based, no stigma)

More young people to believe in themselves and their own empowerment

Inclusion – youth councils
Consolidate service providers – cohesion
Information sharing

Priorities for tomorrow
2009 healthy schools initiative –
Curriculum for education -> cross curricular: drugs, sex, alcohol etc.
Long term funding – 10 year strategy

Consistency needed
Media and communications with young people

Define health standards – healthy schools goal posts have moved due to target not being met.
Health standards must be rigid and inspected. OFSTED.
Drugs and alcohol and sex and relationship education should be national curriculum and outcome measured.

10 year strategy
Make outcomes clear

Bring support to parents as well as young people – to help them help themselves
Rise above politics and look for longer term commitments

Sustainability

Keep asking what funds what they suggest

How does youth work make a difference rather than the activities being delivered by other agencies?

Levels of resources to enable services where young people are – and to personalize services for young people

Average: 5 (1 vote)
Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 22:36

Facing the Dragons

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Facing the dragons: what do you think?

Telford, Tower Hamlets and Suffolk were the three councils presenting their cases to the dragons, each bidding to be chosen as the 'council for the youth' at today's Youth Summit. Each council described the various opportunities they offer to young people, ranging from health care to sports. After a gruelling series of questions from the three dragons, the audience was asked to vote on which council they thought was the most accommodating for young people, using a new democratic process involving a "hands up and scream" system where the winner was based on who had the "loudest" support. After two voting round, it was decided by an undisputable majority that Tower hamlets were the winner, crowned as the best council for young people. However - we want to know what you think...

The key points from each council are available below, and you can vote for who you think should have won here...

Telford
Activities for children and young people to do
Street sport and leisure centres
Art and Culture - concerts, gigs, arts team, theatre, culture zone
Celebrate success of young citizens - certificates
Young peoples voices are heard - school council and councillor training
Children and young people are at the heart of decision making

Suffolk
Young peoples voices are heard
Youth council working on funds
Activities to do - Go Ape (adventure scheme), Museums, Ridding centres
Best crime rates (20 & under, well below average)
Volunteering opportunities

Tower Hamlets
Best Funded services
Developed with and for young people
Four mobile vehicles to go to area that don't have youth clubs
At least two hours per week of constructive activities (learn knowledge and skills), sporting activities and art activities
850 new projects being developed there
2012 Olympics going on in area
A youth club within every mile

Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 17:44

Notes from the workshop.... (Making a positive contribution)

What needs to be changed or put in place?:

How to replicate the success of projects like YouthAID across London / England
How to change the image of volunteering to engage ‘hard to reach’ young people
How to let local and national government know more about these projects
Ensuring young people gain personally from volunteering (personal not financial)
Highlighting the benefits (skills, activities of interest to the individual, chance to meet people, certificates etc)
How to encourage young people to spread the message to others – they are the most convincing advocates
Recruit a friend campaign?
Talking to young people that are not volunteering about volunteers experiences!
Whether volunteering should become compulsory for young people as part of their personal development…
Understanding young people’s motivation for volunteering is critical – could compulsory elements be included or would this undermine involvement?
What should young people do after their education is finished at 16 – stay on? volunteer? Undertake National service?…
How to recognise and celebrate young people’s achievements in the community
How to challenge negative perceptions and change peoples’ views?
How do we get more young people volunteering - making voluntary opportunities more appealing so more young people will be interested
What support structures and resources are there out there? For young people / for organisations wanting to involve young people?
Where are the progression routes for young volunteers?

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Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 17:19

Youth Board? Yes. Minister? No

Discussions about the merits of a Youth Board have continued today since Tom Wylie's suggestion in favour of the creation of one in his keynote speech earlier...

In this video Dai Hudd from Prospect suggests that a board might be a good idea - but having it chaired by a Minister could cause problems...


Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 16:57

Workshop notes - enjoying and achieving (from the big flip charts...)

What is young people's experience?:

Not enough! There is not enough face-to-face contact with young people and decision makers. Young people want to learn and want to work towards qualifications to hemp them progress. Young people value the progress they make in confidence, people skills and team working.

Where are we falling short for children and young people?:

We’re not investing in our young people. We’re not commissioning quality services; not recognising so called ‘soft outcomes’; not offering appropriate opportunities to develop emotional intelligence/literacy. We’re not “grabbing attention” in schools.

Why are we falling short?:

There is too much commissioning for convenience and people are unwilling to go the extra mile around consultation. There is too much time spent on securing funding and not enough on young people. We’re not engaging with schools effectively and are unable to sustain initiatives.

What needs to be changed or put in place?:

Cross-government engagement.
Effective evaluation of provision.
Sustainable funding to enable longer term provision and planning.
Focus on gender - break down stereotypes and open up opportunities.

Focus on achievement of hard outcomes can distract from ‘enjoying’.
We need to have effective consultation with young people.
There are issues about the fairness of the EMA - means testing young people, being unaware of what’s available and what they want to do - they need support.
The importance of fun in learning.
The importance of ‘soft outcomes’.
Gender equality.
Funding issues - time consuming, short-term, limits opportunities for young people.

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Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 16:37

Vox Pops after open space session

Steve Moore from Channel 4 led an open spaces session at today's Youth Summit - and afterwards DK captured some of the ideas that have come up...

Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 15:42

The Youth Summit 2007

Hi i am on work placement with a company called changemakers and its is going very well for me i am enjoying it there all full of respect and good people.
Well basacaliy i am just typing up a blog for young people and want to show the goverment that what happen in today world. Youngastas like out there on the street are just in to crime and stuff. The people out there are getting into trouble with the police for no reason example a young people is wearing a hooded top and people around him are thinking omg he is A CRIMINAL!!!! what is the young people gonna think cause he is just wereing a hoody it lyk being stupid then the young people is gonna think DAM these people are thinking i am bad stereo type.!!!

And in the future if u do have criminal conviction over sumthink that u have not done and the court found you guilty that not fair (Why) Because 1st he aint done nuffink and he is getting in to trouble for no reason?
And when you are goin for a job interview u got to be honest what ever they ask you nuffink personal that u dont want just say to them straight but in fact if u do have a criminal record then you tell them no matter if u have done nuffink or did do.

Added by golden at 06/25/2007 - 15:23

Comments from workshops participants (collected bullet points...)

What is young people's experience?:

Need to consult more with young people.
Fear of crime (particularly mobiles)
Policy makers need to take action on young people's views.
Young people are not listened to
Young people are stereotyped
Young people are victimised
Get poorer services than adults
Standing with friends on the street is seen as unacceptable / threatening
When poorer educated there are bigger issues
Young people don't feel safe - deprivation, crime, poor lighting, alcohol, fear of adults (high streets)
Detached youth work - cuts in services / gaps in provision
Dispersal orders - impact puts young people in unsafe positions (youthworkers are not consulted on this process...)
Perceptions of young people - perceived as a threat
CCTV - criminalising young people - no communication - arms-length viewing
Many of the current policy responses to community safety (e.g. Cameras, dispersal orders, "mosquito" devices) are perceived by young people as making their communities *less* safe for them...
Huge variety of experiences
Many young people feel unheard
Many young people feel judged

Where are we falling short for children and young people?:

Not listening / asking
Often when asked - young people don't see a result. Not following through.
Not respected enough
Not giving feedback.
Not giving them positive role models and displaying positive images
When something is reported in the media we don't go to young people for comments - we go to adults.
We're not listening and consulting enough
Not providing enough qualified staff
Lack of youth provisions
Lack of positive role models and images for young people

Why are we falling short?:

Adults (mid age range) often not on the streets (using cars)
Young people and old people only ones left on the streets - not surprising - older ones are scared
Government targets push to criminalise and stigmatise young people
We think we know what's best - we were young once
Organisational excuses - not enough time and money
Not involving young people in design / delivery / policy
Politicians scared of young people
Adults don't, on the whole, like young people
Don't have the institutional norms that involve and consult young people
Sometimes only consulting the 'easy to reach' - not the hard to reach...

What needs to be changed or put in place?:

Need to research into the health effects of mosquito systems or just ban them! Look at alternatives. Invite MP's with kids under 17 to make their child to an are with mosquito device... It's age discrimination against human rights!
Police targets counter-productive for young people. Police targets contradict youth offending targets
More funding for local projects
Training in youth work for P.C.S.O.s
Proposals in youth matters implemented. Standards need to be set high and we need to develop a culture that expects exceeding the minimum.
New police/PCSO recruits to have training session from young people about what it's like to be young & police and young peoples relationships
Sharing of what has worked in authorities
Intergenerational work
ASBOs/CCTV - consultation with young people and youth service providers
Consultation - listen and act
Look at roles of personal and detached youth workers - where do we need investment...

If young people identify "boredom" as the key factor of anti-social behaviour, in areas where a comprehensive and accessible youth service is in place, /and/ anti-social behaviour still exists: *what more can be done?*

We understand that PCSOs can be good in different areas - but the quality is not consistent in all places. We discussed ideas such as young people training policy and more education on adolescence for PCSOs but *how can we ensure such programmes and quality standards are applied around the country*.

Young people want to be respected
Demand for consultation (e.g. Mosquito / CCTV)
Judgement being made with limited knowledge
Need to engage with "credible" adult.
Listen to young people locally and nationally
Involve them as integral par of strategy/policy/devlivery and development as equal partners - not as token involvement / consultation...

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Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 15:14

Staying Safe...

What is young people's experience?:

We have a rough idea - but as times change, things change. We need to realise that young people have different experiences from each other...

Where are we falling short for children and young people?:

Not listening
Not communication
Poor upbringing / partental respect
Charging for services

Why are we falling short?:

Not enough money - other priorities take over

What needs to be changed or put in place?:

"Upbringing" - young people want less discipline but need more.
Adults need to make more effort to meet young people. Mutual respect and mutual needs.
Need to appoint youn person in the house of commons or have more long term ministers.

We need to take young people seriously,
Make sure young people are prioritised
Need better national policy.

No votes yet
Added by tim at 06/25/2007 - 15:05